9 Apr
2015
9 Apr
'15
3:50 p.m.
Dear Adrien, I'd be more than happy to send info in the right channels or have a chat with you on skype. But yes, after the 14th... cheers, Jason On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Adrien Labaeye <adrienlabaeye@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Jason, > > A non-specific answer would be to check out our Discourse forum and to > introduce yourself there > <http://discourse.transformap.co/c/welcome-on-board/who-is-who>describing > shortly what you're doing and where you see possible co-creation. > Then various people (including Jon) could take up the discussion and make > it specific. I have no tech skills myself: :) > > I could also offer to make a Skype with you to collect information about > ESSGlobal (in particular what the plans are) and communicate that back on > Discourse (our forum). In return, I can answer your questions (especially > about the 15MMM - Mapping Month in May) and you would answer the questions > I have about the past development of ESSGlobal (I am a researcher about > collaborative mapping). I've made such interview with Vincent Calame who > provided me with a basic understanding so it wouldn't too long I assume). > What do you think? It doesn't have to happen immediately (after the 14.04 > deadline maybe). > > All the best, > Adrien > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Jason Nardi <jason.nardi@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Jon, >> >> as a matter of fact I was wondering what happened...! >> >> So you're no longer pursuing "TransformLab" but another project? Maybe >> if you write us two lines about it - and in what sense you see our possible >> contributions - it could help... >> >> Then we can have a chat. >> >> On another point, the development of Transformaps, can you suggest what >> is the best way to be able to participate to the process - since we haven't >> really progressed about how to work on the ESSglobal interoperability >> standards we are continuing to develop and it is hard for non-German >> speakers to follow ... >> >> Thanks and ciao from Florence (finally Spring here too...) >> >> Jason >> On Apr 7, 2015 6:11 PM, "Jon Richter" <post@jonrichter.de> wrote: >> >>> Dear Solidary Economists >>> Jason, Eric and Fernando. >>> >>> >>> From my silence you must have concluded the halt of our proposal. >>> Indeed I've found a beautiful private ~nk€ debt in my papers, which >>> almost stopped any performance. >>> >>> But as we are talking about distributed systems here, the work >>> progressed in another context which Gualter and me are currently >>> supporting. >>> >>> This proposal could make use of contributions from you and I would be >>> happy to get in touch about how these could look like. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> >>> >>> I'm available on the following channels: >>> >>> * mailto:post@jonrichter.de >>> * skype:yalamerde >>> * hangouts:jon.richter@gmail.com >>> >>> In further progression of this conversation it will make sense to create >>> an account on >>> >>> https://github.com >>> >>> ,if not done already. >>> Please provide it within your reply. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> >>> >>> And please excuse my recent incapability to deliver appropriate >>> continuity. I just didn't think about myself. >>> >>> Most sincerely, >>> spring greetings from Paris [1], >>> >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> >>> [1] http://timemapper.okfnlabs.org/almereyda/transforlab-timemap#8 >>> >>> >>> Am 13.03.2015 um 15:16 schrieb Jason Nardi: >>> > Hi Jon, >>> > >>> > any news? As RIPESS we've discussed your proposal [TransforLab] and >>> are >>> > ready to engage. But we need to have some written info... and the time >>> > necessary to have any formal documentation ready. >>> > >>> > I also would like to relaunch my proposals (see message below) to the >>> whole >>> > collective. In particular, as Solidarius Italy we're working with the >>> > Italian CNR (National Research Center) on a project application for the >>> > development and implementation of the existing Solidarius platform to >>> help >>> > the build-up and consolidation of solidarity economy territorial >>> networks. >>> > I think it would be really useful if on the work Transformap has done >>> with >>> > Openstreetmaps we could establish a collaboration. Who can I talk to >>> about >>> > this? >>> > >>> > In solidarity, >>> > Jason Nardi >>> > >>> > Il martedì 24 febbraio 2015, jon richter <post@jonrichter.de> ha >>> scritto: >>> > >>> >> Good evening Jason, >>> >> >>> >> so happy you are still with us and writing in the perfect moment, as I >>> >> am just coming back from a Hacksprint in Witzenhausen with Gualter [1] >>> >> and setting up my new working desk [2] to get on with intensively >>> >> writing a TransforLab H2020 Application [3] and leading it to a >>> >> successful formulation [4]. >>> >> >>> >> After sitting with François Schneider, who was just around and didn't >>> >> object our approaches too much, we're even more confident of our >>> proposal. >>> >> >>> >> Actually RIPESS is one of the last missing building blocks to a strong >>> >> consortium. As we already have a couple organisations from Germany, >>> >> France and Great Britain in closer consideration, we want to ask if >>> >> RIPESS Spain wants to join TransforLab. >>> >> An official invitation is due this week; now you just created facts >>> >> beforehand. >>> >> >>> >> If there is sincere interest, please write back to >>> >> >>> >> lab@transformap.co >>> >> >>> >> so we can keep respective persons into the loop. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> For any other cooperation possibilities in regards of TransforMap, I >>> >> will let the others talk. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Keen on anything that's in front of us, >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Jon Richter >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> important link: >>> >> >>> >> [3] http://h2020.transformap.co + http://transforlab.net >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> context noise links: >>> >> >>> >> [4] >>> >> >>> >> >>> https://stackedit.allmende.io/viewer?url=https://edit.transformap.co/stackedit/BiOnprExskeegItFT2DiGAWW/content >>> >> [1] http://timemapper.okfnlabs.org/almereyda/transforlab-timemap#1 + >>> >> >>> >> >>> https://stackedit.allmende.io/viewer?url=https://edit.transformap.co/stackedit/4keFlom4MGs1PCsogWubKhaV/content >>> >> [2] https://twitter.com/almereyda/status/570313060101033984 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 24.02.2015 14:33, Jason Nardi wrote: >>> >>> Dear Silke, >>> >>> and dear Transformappers, >>> >>> >>> >>> thanks for the thorough update. Wow, what an achievement so far! >>> >>> >>> >>> I would really like to be able to start participating to your >>> activities, >>> >>> not just as individual... so >>> >>> I have 4 proposals / suggestions I'd like to share with you: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1. Find ways for a participation / collaboration with RIPESS - >>> Solidarity >>> >>> Economy Europe network, throughout the membership in several of the >>> >>> European countries. One example could be with the survey RIPESS is >>> >>> launching in March for the "Panorama of Solidarity Economy in >>> Europe" - >>> >>> where there could certainly be overlapping and info sharing - but >>> also >>> >>> co-promotion... >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. Same with the ESSGlobal group, which is still active and >>> advancing on >>> >>> the international interoperability and open-linked data / semantic >>> web >>> >> use >>> >>> for the mappings - there has been a first exchange with Joseph - >>> probably >>> >>> we should have some more exchanges so we don't just continue going in >>> >>> parallel: I think there are many common aspects to explore where we >>> >> could >>> >>> work together; >>> >>> >>> >>> 3. I can try to participate to the first test in my town, Florence >>> >>> (Italy). We already have a local Solidarity and Alternative Economy >>> >>> network and I'm positive that many will be interested / willing to >>> map >>> >>> their initiatives or share their info. >>> >>> >>> >>> 4. Finally, with the Italian CNR (National Research Center) my >>> >> organization >>> >>> Solidarius is working on a European project proposal (Horizon 2020) >>> for a >>> >>> portal on "economic intelligence" that is an evolution of the one >>> >> developed >>> >>> by Solidarius International (Euclides Mance, Brasil - you remember >>> him >>> >> from >>> >>> the degrowth conference). Part of that is also about mapping and >>> data >>> >>> collection and I think the approach Trasformap has developed could be >>> >> very >>> >>> useful as well. Perhaps we could have a partnership in such a >>> project (we >>> >>> would also need a University o Research center to partner). Other >>> >>> countries, besides Italy and Germany, are probably going to be >>> Portugal >>> >> and >>> >>> Spain (and maybe Greece). >>> >>> >>> >>> That's all folks...! >>> >>> >>> >>> In solidarity, >>> >>> Jason Nardi >>> >>> >>> >>> www.solidarius.it >>> >>> www.ripess.eu >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:48 PM, TransforMap collective < >>> >>> collective@transformap.co> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear MMM/TransforMap mailing lists, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> forwarding a message from Silke sent to global@lists.14mmm.org. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Due to disclosure of multiple private mail addresses, it sould not >>> be >>> >>>> delivered. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> See below. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- >>> >>>> Betreff: global post from silke.helfrich@gmx.de requires approval >>> >>>> Datum: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:10:23 +0100 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the >>> >>>> following mailing list posting: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> List: global@lists.14mmm.org >>> >>>> From: silke.helfrich@gmx.de >>> >>>> Subject: Re: TransforMap Global Mapping Month and update / >>> Taxonomy >>> >>>> Reason: Too many recipients to the message >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- >>> >>>> Betreff: Re: TransforMap Global Mapping Month and update / Taxonomy >>> >>>> Datum: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:09:50 +0100 >>> >>>> Von: Silke Helfrich <silke.helfrich@gmx.de> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ALERT: @transforMappers: If there are mistakes in the following >>> message, >>> >>>> please correct me! + at the very end, there is some new information >>> re. >>> >>>> the partners for the intl. testmapping >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ISSUE: WHERE ARE WE AT WITH TRANFORMAP AND THE TESTMAPPING >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Dear all, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> first of all: amis québecois, I am so sorry for the delay, I have >>> been >>> >>>> involved in too many processes lately, but as far as TransforMap is >>> >>>> concerned the reason for the delay in informing You, our >>> international >>> >>>> peers and (hopefully) co-mappers, is a really good one: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> First of all, we've managed to set up sth. like an initial >>> governance >>> >>>> structure: >>> >>>> >>> http://blog.14mmm.org/transformap-has-a-working-structure-and-its-wild/ >>> >>>> >>> >>>> That is; we went through an internal process of urgently needed f2f >>> >>>> conversations and decision making and are now able to divide the >>> myriad >>> >>>> of tasks more swiftly. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> And secondly: we made a proposal to the European Union within their >>> >>>> CHEST project : http://www.chest-project.eu/ >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Tatataaaa, we were pre-selected, meaning that now everybody is >>> overly >>> >>>> busy with preparing the documents for the final selection process, >>> this >>> >>>> would help us to finance especially the programming and the >>> coordination >>> >>>> work for the next year and beyond. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Moreover we have been preparing the test-mapping process and tools >>> + the >>> >>>> partnerships to go international, for instance with Shareable in >>> the US. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> All of us are very aware of the fact that we urgently need some >>> basic >>> >>>> information in English, and we will work on that as soon as we get >>> two >>> >>>> funding proposals (the one to the EU and another one) off desk. >>> >>>> We are already working on it: >>> >>>> >>> http://discourse.transformap.co/t/self-description-of-transformap/164 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Now; where are we at with the taxonomy and with the testmapping? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Taxonomy: We've FINALLY made our decisions about the three most >>> >>>> important category-groups: That is: >>> >>>> - needs ---> ready for translation into French, Finish and many >>> other >>> >>>> languages (see >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:KartenKarsten/futureMap#Needs_fulfilled_by_a_community >>> >>>> >>> >>>> - mode of interaction ---> ready for translation into French, >>> Finish and >>> >>>> many other languages >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:KartenKarsten/futureMap#Mode_of_Interaction >>> >>>> >>> >>>> - self-description of the community ----> we made the final >>> decisions, >>> >>>> that is: We know know which tribes we wanna start with, but we still >>> >>>> need to finish the short descriptions in English (so, it is not yet >>> >>>> ready for translation) >>> >>>> Here are "the tribes"; >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:KartenKarsten/futureMap#Self-description_of_a_community >>> >>>> >>> >>>> As you can easily see: this is a project of CONVERGENCE; it cannot >>> be >>> >>>> otherwise. So, while we work together on TransforMap we enact TAPAs >>> >>>> (There Are Plenty of Alternatives) and we network in real life >>> (instead >>> >>>> of only talking about the need to network) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> It is important to note that for TranforMap (not for OSM of >>> course), the >>> >>>> self-identification with one of these OR OTHER communities will be >>> >>>> mandatory; I can explain this later. But this is the only way to - >>> at >>> >>>> the end - generate a global map, where we can make "all commons" >>> >>>> visible, or "all solidarity economy projects" or simply "all TAPAs"- >>> >>>> more on this later (because this only applies to the TransforMap >>> layer, >>> >>>> not for OSM (as we don't control the handling of categories, tags >>> and >>> >>>> data on OSM. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> We are also collecting the so called "Points of Interest", as this >>> is >>> >>>> sth. the common mapper (and user) is very interested in. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> TOOLS: >>> >>>> Making the decisions about the taxonomy has been key for >>> programming the >>> >>>> testmapping tools, and again... it took us a while to get everything >>> >>>> done. But now we have two options. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> - the first one is to collect data via our TRANSFORTESTIONAIRE: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >>> https://docs.google.com/a/getactive.org/forms/d/16LpwkNrL9YtX2-UknMO1M8k0_w06QZVHa9kkj0IQoYE/viewform >>> >>>> >>> >>>> All tags are updated to the current state of the taxonomy! >>> >>>> You can use it RIGHT NOW, the only BUT is, that data will be >>> collected >>> >>>> and need to be transferred manually to OSM later, but it helps us >>> to get >>> >>>> the testmapping done and get feedback on the Taxonomy, >>> >>>> >>> >>>> - the second is, that our programmers (some magic is in there, I >>> swear >>> >>>> you), are about to finish a prototype for the online testmapping >>> >>>> (needing a few more days) and that the current state of the taxonomy >>> >>>> finally allows to work on the official and user friendly entry mask. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> So; If you wanna start testmapping right now: GO FOR IT and use our >>> >>>> transfortestionaire, >>> >>>> If you wanna wait for another tool, bear with us. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> TESTMAPPING: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> You might not be surprised that giving the huzzle and buzzle in the >>> >>>> whole process we finally decided that we will move the testmapping >>> days >>> >>>> to a testmapping month, that is MAY 2015 >>> >>>> >>> >>>> According to your advice, dear friends in Canada, we suggest to >>> organize >>> >>>> testmappings at a few spots, that is: wide and exhaustive >>> testmappings >>> >>>> in 5 or 6 cities in different regions/continents instead of a bit of >>> >>>> testmapping everywhere. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> THEREFORE WE NEED YOU SUPPORT! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Our ideas for the moment: >>> >>>> please focus on a selected place/ city or rural region) >>> >>>> USA - Partner: Shareable (please focus on a >>> >>>> Canada - Partner: REmix the Commons/ OSM Montreal/ Others -> I >>> guess it >>> >>>> will be Montreal >>> >>>> FRANCE - Partner: ? - there will be certainly a wonderful >>> opportunity at >>> >>>> the Ouishare -Fest >>> >>>> AUSTRIA - Partner: OSM Graz/ ELEVATE/ OTHERS: -> Graz >>> >>>> GERMANY - Partner: Anstiftung/Ertomis and Others mainly >>> TransforMappers >>> >>>> --> Munich and/or Berlin >>> >>>> FINLAND - http://www.commons.fi/ -> selected place in Finland >>> >>>> >>> >>>> The list is open! >>> >>>> >>> >>>> We now need to start the global conversation about the testmapping >>> and >>> >>>> can use our global mmm list for it (the one I am cceing); at the >>> same >>> >>>> time we are trying to get some funds for the test-mapping process. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> PLEASE REGISTER THERE >>> >>>> - if you are interested in the process >>> >>>> - if you need follow-up information >>> >>>> - if you can contribute sth (proposals/ translations/ partnership >>> for >>> >>>> testmapping/ whatever idea and resources) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> If I forgot to respond to any of your questions, I will be happy to >>> do >>> >>>> so asap. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Please forgive me that I won't re-read and correct my e-mail, but I >>> >>>> still have to phone conferences waiting for me tonight :-) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Many, many thanks for all the support you've provided so far >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Silke >>> >>>> for the TransforMappers in Germany and Austria >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> @Silke : >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Does the Global Mapping Day of Marsh 6th and 7th confirmed ? Do you >>> >> have >>> >>>>> any material we can use to promote and mobilize people there ? >>> Thanks >>> >>>>> for your information. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Best >>> >>>>> Fred >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> global mailing list >>> >>>> global@lists.14mmm.org >>> >>>> http://lists.14mmm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/global >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> global mailing list >>> >>> global@lists.14mmm.org >>> >>> http://lists.14mmm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/global >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > global mailing list >>> > global@lists.14mmm.org >>> > http://lists.14mmm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/global >>> > >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> global mailing list >> global@lists.14mmm.org >> http://lists.14mmm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/global >> >> > > > -- > Adrien Labaeye > > +49 176 3810 8605 | Skype ID: adrien.labaeye | Twitter: @alabaeye | > transitionlab.de > > c/o Thinkfarm Berlin | Oranienstraße 183 | 10999 Berlin | (3. 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