New subject: [maps] Fwd from Silke: TransforMap Global Mapping Month and update / Taxonomy

17 Feb 2015

Dear Adrien,

I'd be more than happy to send info in the right channels or have a chat
with you on skype. But yes, after the 14th...

cheers,
Jason

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Adrien Labaeye <adrienlabaeye@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Jason,
>
> A non-specific answer would be to check out our Discourse forum and to
> introduce yourself there
> <http://discourse.transformap.co/c/welcome-on-board/who-is-who>describing
> shortly what you're doing and where you see possible co-creation.
> Then various people (including Jon) could take up the discussion and make
> it specific. I have no tech skills myself: :)
>
> I could also offer to make a Skype with you to collect information about
> ESSGlobal (in particular what the plans are) and communicate that back on
> Discourse (our forum). In return, I can answer your questions (especially
> about the 15MMM - Mapping Month in May) and you would answer the questions
> I have about the past development of ESSGlobal (I am a researcher about
> collaborative mapping). I've made such interview with Vincent Calame who
> provided me with a basic understanding so it wouldn't too long I assume).
> What do you think? It doesn't have to happen immediately (after the 14.04
> deadline maybe).
>
> All the best,
> Adrien
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Jason Nardi <jason.nardi@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Jon,
>>
>> as a matter of fact I was wondering what happened...!
>>
>> So you're no longer pursuing "TransformLab" but another project?  Maybe
>> if you write us two lines about it - and in what sense you see our possible
>> contributions - it could help...
>>
>> Then we can have a chat.
>>
>> On another point, the development of Transformaps, can you suggest what
>> is the best way to be able to participate to the process - since we haven't
>> really progressed about how to work on the ESSglobal interoperability
>> standards we are continuing to develop and it is hard for non-German
>> speakers to follow ...
>>
>> Thanks and ciao from Florence (finally Spring here too...)
>>
>> Jason
>> On Apr 7, 2015 6:11 PM, "Jon Richter" <post@jonrichter.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Solidary Economists
>>> Jason, Eric and Fernando.
>>>
>>>
>>> From my silence you must have concluded the halt of our proposal.
>>> Indeed I've found a beautiful private ~nk€ debt in my papers, which
>>> almost stopped any performance.
>>>
>>> But as we are talking about distributed systems here, the work
>>> progressed in another context which Gualter and me are currently
>>> supporting.
>>>
>>> This proposal could make use of contributions from you and I would be
>>> happy to get in touch about how these could look like.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm available on the following channels:
>>>
>>> * mailto:post@jonrichter.de
>>> * skype:yalamerde
>>> * hangouts:jon.richter@gmail.com
>>>
>>> In further progression of this conversation it will make sense to create
>>> an account on
>>>
>>>    https://github.com
>>>
>>> ,if not done already.
>>> Please provide it within your reply.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>> And please excuse my recent incapability to deliver appropriate
>>> continuity. I just didn't think about myself.
>>>
>>> Most sincerely,
>>> spring greetings from Paris [1],
>>>
>>>
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://timemapper.okfnlabs.org/almereyda/transforlab-timemap#8
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.03.2015 um 15:16 schrieb Jason Nardi:
>>> > Hi Jon,
>>> >
>>> > any news?  As RIPESS we've discussed your proposal [TransforLab] and
>>> are
>>> > ready to engage.  But we need to have some written info... and the time
>>> > necessary to have any formal documentation ready.
>>> >
>>> > I also would like to relaunch my proposals (see message below) to the
>>> whole
>>> > collective.  In particular, as Solidarius Italy we're working with the
>>> > Italian CNR (National Research Center) on a project application for the
>>> > development and implementation of the existing Solidarius platform to
>>> help
>>> > the build-up and consolidation of solidarity economy territorial
>>> networks.
>>> > I think it would be really useful if on the work Transformap has done
>>> with
>>> > Openstreetmaps we could establish a collaboration.  Who can I talk to
>>> about
>>> > this?
>>> >
>>> > In solidarity,
>>> > Jason Nardi
>>> >
>>> > Il martedì 24 febbraio 2015, jon richter <post@jonrichter.de> ha
>>> scritto:
>>> >
>>> >> Good evening Jason,
>>> >>
>>> >> so happy you are still with us and writing in the perfect moment, as I
>>> >> am just coming back from a Hacksprint in Witzenhausen with Gualter [1]
>>> >> and setting up my new working desk [2] to get on with intensively
>>> >> writing a TransforLab H2020 Application [3] and leading it to a
>>> >> successful formulation [4].
>>> >>
>>> >> After sitting with François Schneider, who was just around and didn't
>>> >> object our approaches too much, we're even more confident of our
>>> proposal.
>>> >>
>>> >> Actually RIPESS is one of the last missing building blocks to a strong
>>> >> consortium. As we already have a couple organisations from Germany,
>>> >> France and Great Britain in closer consideration, we want to ask if
>>> >> RIPESS Spain wants to join TransforLab.
>>> >> An official invitation is due this week; now you just created facts
>>> >> beforehand.
>>> >>
>>> >> If there is sincere interest, please write back to
>>> >>
>>> >>     lab@transformap.co
>>> >>
>>> >> so we can keep respective persons into the loop.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> For any other cooperation possibilities in regards of TransforMap, I
>>> >> will let the others talk.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Keen on anything that's in front of us,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Jon Richter
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> important link:
>>> >>
>>> >> [3] http://h2020.transformap.co + http://transforlab.net
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> context noise links:
>>> >>
>>> >> [4]
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://stackedit.allmende.io/viewer?url=https://edit.transformap.co/stackedit/BiOnprExskeegItFT2DiGAWW/content
>>> >> [1] http://timemapper.okfnlabs.org/almereyda/transforlab-timemap#1 +
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://stackedit.allmende.io/viewer?url=https://edit.transformap.co/stackedit/4keFlom4MGs1PCsogWubKhaV/content
>>> >> [2] https://twitter.com/almereyda/status/570313060101033984
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 24.02.2015 14:33, Jason Nardi wrote:
>>> >>> Dear Silke,
>>> >>> and dear Transformappers,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> thanks for the thorough update.  Wow, what an achievement so far!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I would really like to be able to start participating to your
>>> activities,
>>> >>> not just as individual... so
>>> >>> I have 4 proposals / suggestions I'd like to share with you:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1. Find ways for a participation / collaboration with RIPESS -
>>> Solidarity
>>> >>> Economy Europe network, throughout the membership in several of the
>>> >>> European countries.  One example could be with the survey RIPESS is
>>> >>> launching in March for the "Panorama of Solidarity Economy in
>>> Europe" -
>>> >>> where there could certainly be overlapping and info sharing - but
>>> also
>>> >>> co-promotion...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2. Same with the ESSGlobal group, which is still active and
>>> advancing on
>>> >>> the international interoperability and open-linked data / semantic
>>> web
>>> >> use
>>> >>> for the mappings - there has been a first exchange with Joseph -
>>> probably
>>> >>> we should have some more exchanges so we don't just continue going in
>>> >>> parallel:  I think there are many common aspects to explore where we
>>> >> could
>>> >>> work together;
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 3. I can try to participate to the first test in my town, Florence
>>> >>> (Italy).  We already have a local Solidarity and Alternative Economy
>>> >>>  network and I'm positive that many will be interested / willing to
>>> map
>>> >>> their initiatives or share their info.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 4. Finally, with the Italian CNR (National Research Center) my
>>> >> organization
>>> >>> Solidarius is working on a European project proposal (Horizon 2020)
>>> for a
>>> >>> portal on "economic intelligence" that is an evolution of the one
>>> >> developed
>>> >>> by Solidarius International (Euclides Mance, Brasil - you remember
>>> him
>>> >> from
>>> >>> the degrowth conference).  Part of that is also about mapping and
>>> data
>>> >>> collection and I think the approach Trasformap has developed could be
>>> >> very
>>> >>> useful as well. Perhaps we could have a partnership in such a
>>> project (we
>>> >>> would also need a University o Research center to partner).  Other
>>> >>> countries, besides Italy and Germany, are probably going to be
>>> Portugal
>>> >> and
>>> >>> Spain (and maybe Greece).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> That's all folks...!
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In solidarity,
>>> >>> Jason Nardi
>>> >>>
>>> >>> www.solidarius.it
>>> >>> www.ripess.eu
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:48 PM, TransforMap collective <
>>> >>> collective@transformap.co> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Dear MMM/TransforMap mailing lists,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> forwarding a message from Silke sent to global@lists.14mmm.org.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Due to disclosure of multiple private mail addresses, it sould not
>>> be
>>> >>>> delivered.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> See below.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>> >>>> Betreff: global post from silke.helfrich@gmx.de requires approval
>>> >>>> Datum: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:10:23 +0100
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> As list administrator, your authorization is requested for the
>>> >>>> following mailing list posting:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>     List:    global@lists.14mmm.org
>>> >>>>     From:    silke.helfrich@gmx.de
>>> >>>>     Subject: Re: TransforMap  Global Mapping Month and update /
>>> Taxonomy
>>> >>>>     Reason:  Too many recipients to the message
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
>>> >>>> Betreff: Re: TransforMap  Global Mapping Month and update / Taxonomy
>>> >>>> Datum: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 20:09:50 +0100
>>> >>>> Von: Silke Helfrich <silke.helfrich@gmx.de>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ALERT: @transforMappers: If there are mistakes in the following
>>> message,
>>> >>>> please correct me! + at the very end, there is some new information
>>> re.
>>> >>>> the partners for the intl. testmapping
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ISSUE: WHERE ARE WE AT WITH TRANFORMAP AND THE TESTMAPPING
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Dear all,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> first of all: amis québecois, I am so sorry for the delay, I have
>>> been
>>> >>>> involved in too many processes lately, but as far as TransforMap is
>>> >>>> concerned the reason for the delay in informing You, our
>>> international
>>> >>>> peers and (hopefully) co-mappers, is a really good one:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> First of all, we've managed to set up sth. like an initial
>>> governance
>>> >>>> structure:
>>> >>>>
>>> http://blog.14mmm.org/transformap-has-a-working-structure-and-its-wild/
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> That is; we went through an internal process of urgently needed f2f
>>> >>>> conversations and decision making and are now able to divide the
>>> myriad
>>> >>>> of tasks more swiftly.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> And secondly: we made a proposal to the European Union within their
>>> >>>> CHEST project : http://www.chest-project.eu/
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Tatataaaa, we were pre-selected, meaning that now everybody is
>>> overly
>>> >>>> busy with preparing the documents for the final selection process,
>>> this
>>> >>>> would help us to finance especially the programming and the
>>> coordination
>>> >>>> work for the next year and beyond.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Moreover we have been preparing the test-mapping process and tools
>>> + the
>>> >>>> partnerships to go international, for instance with Shareable in
>>> the US.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> All of us are very aware of the fact that we urgently need some
>>> basic
>>> >>>> information in English, and we will work on that as soon as we get
>>> two
>>> >>>> funding proposals (the one to the EU and another one) off desk.
>>> >>>> We are already working on it:
>>> >>>>
>>> http://discourse.transformap.co/t/self-description-of-transformap/164
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Now; where are we at with the taxonomy and with the testmapping?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Taxonomy: We've FINALLY made our decisions about the three most
>>> >>>> important category-groups: That is:
>>> >>>> - needs   ---> ready for translation into French, Finish and many
>>> other
>>> >>>> languages (see
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:KartenKarsten/futureMap#Needs_fulfilled_by_a_community
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> - mode of interaction ---> ready for translation into French,
>>> Finish and
>>> >>>> many other languages
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:KartenKarsten/futureMap#Mode_of_Interaction
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> - self-description of the community ----> we made the final
>>> decisions,
>>> >>>> that is: We know know which tribes we wanna start with, but we still
>>> >>>> need to finish the short descriptions in English (so, it is not yet
>>> >>>> ready for translation)
>>> >>>> Here are "the tribes";
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:KartenKarsten/futureMap#Self-description_of_a_community
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> As you can easily see: this is a project of CONVERGENCE; it cannot
>>> be
>>> >>>> otherwise. So, while we work together on TransforMap we enact TAPAs
>>> >>>> (There Are Plenty of Alternatives) and we network in real life
>>> (instead
>>> >>>> of only talking about the need to network)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> It is important to note that for TranforMap (not for OSM of
>>> course), the
>>> >>>> self-identification with one of these OR OTHER communities will be
>>> >>>> mandatory; I can explain this later. But this is the only way to -
>>> at
>>> >>>> the end - generate a global map, where we can make "all commons"
>>> >>>> visible, or "all solidarity economy projects" or simply "all TAPAs"-
>>> >>>> more on this later (because this only applies to the TransforMap
>>> layer,
>>> >>>> not for OSM (as we don't control the handling of categories, tags
>>> and
>>> >>>> data on OSM.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> We are also collecting the so called "Points of Interest", as this
>>> is
>>> >>>> sth. the common mapper (and user) is very interested in.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> TOOLS:
>>> >>>> Making the decisions about the taxonomy has been key for
>>> programming the
>>> >>>> testmapping tools, and again... it took us a while to get everything
>>> >>>> done. But now we have two options.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> - the first one is to collect data via our TRANSFORTESTIONAIRE:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>
>>> https://docs.google.com/a/getactive.org/forms/d/16LpwkNrL9YtX2-UknMO1M8k0_w06QZVHa9kkj0IQoYE/viewform
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> All tags are updated to the current state of the taxonomy!
>>> >>>> You can use it RIGHT NOW, the only BUT is, that data will be
>>> collected
>>> >>>> and need to be transferred manually to OSM later, but it helps us
>>> to get
>>> >>>> the testmapping done and get feedback on the Taxonomy,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> - the second is, that our programmers (some magic is in there, I
>>> swear
>>> >>>> you), are about to finish a prototype for the online testmapping
>>> >>>> (needing a few more days) and that the current state of the taxonomy
>>> >>>> finally allows to work on the official and user friendly entry mask.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> So; If you wanna start testmapping right now: GO FOR IT and use our
>>> >>>> transfortestionaire,
>>> >>>> If you wanna wait for another tool, bear with us.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> TESTMAPPING:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> You might not be surprised that giving the huzzle and buzzle in the
>>> >>>> whole process we finally decided that we will move the testmapping
>>> days
>>> >>>> to a testmapping month, that is MAY 2015
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> According to your advice, dear friends in Canada, we suggest to
>>> organize
>>> >>>> testmappings at a few spots, that is: wide and exhaustive
>>> testmappings
>>> >>>> in 5 or 6 cities in different regions/continents instead of a bit of
>>> >>>> testmapping everywhere.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> THEREFORE WE NEED YOU SUPPORT!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Our ideas for the moment:
>>> >>>> please focus on a selected place/ city or rural region)
>>> >>>> USA - Partner: Shareable (please focus on a
>>> >>>> Canada - Partner: REmix the Commons/ OSM Montreal/ Others -> I
>>> guess it
>>> >>>> will be Montreal
>>> >>>> FRANCE - Partner: ? - there will be certainly a wonderful
>>> opportunity at
>>> >>>> the Ouishare -Fest
>>> >>>> AUSTRIA - Partner: OSM Graz/ ELEVATE/ OTHERS: -> Graz
>>> >>>> GERMANY - Partner: Anstiftung/Ertomis and Others mainly
>>> TransforMappers
>>> >>>> --> Munich and/or Berlin
>>> >>>> FINLAND - http://www.commons.fi/ -> selected place in Finland
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The list is open!
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> We now need to start the global conversation about the testmapping
>>> and
>>> >>>> can use our global mmm list for it (the one I am cceing); at the
>>> same
>>> >>>> time we are trying to get some funds for the test-mapping process.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> PLEASE REGISTER THERE
>>> >>>> - if you are interested in the process
>>> >>>> - if you need follow-up information
>>> >>>> - if you can contribute sth (proposals/ translations/ partnership
>>> for
>>> >>>> testmapping/ whatever idea and resources)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If I forgot to respond to any of your questions, I will be happy to
>>> do
>>> >>>> so asap.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Please forgive me that I won't re-read and correct my e-mail, but I
>>> >>>> still have to phone conferences waiting for me tonight :-)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Many, many thanks for all the support you've provided so far
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Silke
>>> >>>> for the TransforMappers in Germany and Austria
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> @Silke :
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Does the Global Mapping Day of Marsh 6th and 7th confirmed ? Do you
>>> >> have
>>> >>>>> any material we can use to promote and mobilize people there ?
>>> Thanks
>>> >>>>> for your information.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Best
>>> >>>>> Fred
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
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Fwd from Silke: TransforMap Global Mapping Month and update / Taxonomy

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